Sam Gibbs Morris: Unlocking Masculine Power, Emotional Resilience & The Secret to Staying Present | Ep27

Christian
What is up beautiful people? This is Christian here from the Successful Spiritual Entrepreneur podcast. And today I’m super excited and honored to have Sam Gibbs Morris on the show. He is a leader at the intersection of conscious masculinity. relationships, psychedelics, yogic leaderships, and spirituality.

He’s a speaker, spiritual teacher, and man’s conscious mentor, relationship coach, and psychedelic medicine and breathwork facilitator. And Sam has aligned his purpose with his innate gifts, creating a safe and nurturing space for men to heal and expand their capacity and conscious masculine awareness to experience deeper connections in their relationship.

Sam has worked with over 2000 men to guide them home to their core. Reconnect with their inner self worth in a primal staying power and become unwavering, an unwavering presence in their lives. Welcome to the show, Sam. 

Sam Gibbs Morris
Thank you so much for having me. So great to be here. 

Christian
Yes. Amazing. Before we dive into your story, I’d love to know, like, what is it that What is the most important, I guess, quality to guide men back to their core?

Like, what would you say is where a lot of men in today’s society get stuck? Or like, if you just change this, you know what I mean? 

Sam Gibbs Morris
Um, yeah, I do know what you mean. Um, so there’s a lot of things that, uh, there’s one thing that if men do this. Everything gets better. Um, so there’s a lot of things that circle around this, that kind of want to pull us out of it.

It’s staying power. So what I, how well can we stay in a moment of discomfort, everything from like a really dark, dark night to, um, the heights of ecstasy, you know, some men want to reject when it gets dark. Some men want to reject when it gets too intimate or too pleasurable or too joyful. Like, so there’s all this, like, These things that are going on that want us to take us out of presence when we can cultivate the staying power to be in a moment.

And stay there until it’s completion, everything else in our life opens up. 

Christian
Wow. Beautiful. I love that we, you know, kick it off like that because I think that quality, if we’re able to like cultivate that as men and not only give that to ourselves, but we don’t obviously after we’ve grown into ourselves, we can give it to the outside too.

So how did you come to that conclusion? Staying power? Why? 

Sam Gibbs Morris
Um, to be honest with you, it was falling on my face quite a bit. Like in that, in that area, like I, you know, I, I, for a long time was an avoidant attachment, which meant that like, you know, when things got good or when things got heavy, um, I would tend to just avoid, you know, and so for me that looked like in relationships, it looked like.

Um, creating problems. It looked like, um, you know, shying away from intimacy. It looked like a lot of things that, um, were the opposite of staying power. Like, I, I really wanted, I was a runner. And so, in my own life, that looked like addiction. It looked like, um, it looked like, um, Not being able to finish things, like starting a project and not being able to finish it.

Um, you know, going into a job, start coming, starting off really fast and hot and like coming in and then petering out as the six month markets or the year markets, like, so there’s a lot of things in my life that were pointing towards like, you do not have staying power. I was not experiencing myself As one was staying power.

And so I just did a lot of work. I started to do a lot of work on a nervous system, my nervous system, my somatic body, which meant, um, clearing away a lot of trauma, clearing away a lot of wounding, um, getting in right relationship with a lot of the. My own identity. And once I did that, then the staying power became easier because all those things I just mentioned, addiction, uh, trauma, wounding stories, identity, they all want to take us out of staying power.

And so if you’re trying to be in a moment, like with your partner, for example, And you have all these things coming at you, um, from all these other directions, like it’s, the bandwidth is only so, so fine and so limited that, um, you’re going to be, you’re easily going to overflow and be maxed out and therefore lose presence and, and the partner will feel you either, uh, eject energetically or physically.

And so that’s what I was experiencing was a lot of like, you know, unsafety in my relationships and unsafety in my own self. And when I cultivated that in myself. Then I started to, uh, really practice into, um, capacity, range, uh, less reactivity, more responsiveness. So reactivity is very like knee jerk, dangerous responsiveness is where there’s that pause, that breath, and then engage.

And so as I. Went down the path, clearing away all the things that were getting in the way allowed me to be more of that. 

Christian
Beautiful. And as part of your work and what you offer as an entrepreneur to men and other couples, like where, where does it usually. Start like, where does the process start? How do you, um, do your, you know, framework methodology process?

Like, and maybe explain the term somatics. Cause I think not everybody’s super familiar with that. Like if that is part of that. Yeah, yeah, 

Sam Gibbs Morris
yeah. Um, so where it usually starts is, um, there’s something that’s off, you know, whether it’s in the relationship or whether it’s with the, the, the man himself. Um, you know, a lot of men that I work with, they’ve achieved a lot, and they, you know, the one thing that has kind of paid the price of achievement is relationships, deep connections.

And so when it comes to finding deep connection. They, they tend to flounder and feel lost. And, um, you know, like not so much like a failure, but they, they’re, they’re getting feedback from the person they’re, they’re desiring connection with. That it’s not working. And so, what it really comes down to, is that they’re applying certain principles that worked in other areas of their life to the relationship, which doesn’t work so well.

And so, um, it’s about like, how do you, how do you, like, anchor back into your strengths in your, in your, in your core, your truth, and then use that and apply it to relationship. Because, um, it’s easy to compartmentalize life. And in reality, It’s all one thing, you know, like talk about work life balance. We talk about, um, bringing your work home and, um, The, the, the real question is not so much as like, where’s the work life balance, but how well can I hold all of it?

And so this is now getting into the semantics. So, um, An example of this is, um, lottery winners. Like, there’s like a ridiculously staggering stat that most people that win the lottery say, like, 500 million dollars are, uh, worse off two years later than they were before they won the money. They could be in poverty, win the 500 million dollars, and fall back to, like, now they’re, now they’re drunk, they, they’re in poverty.

But now they’re drug addicts in poverty, or now they’re, they’ve been to jail. Like, that’s because what’s happening in that moment is that, um, they’re not bad people, but their somatic body was not of the, uh, the thermostat of the program to hold that level of wealth. And so let’s zoom out on that or dial it back to a relationship, for example.

Like, we can sit here and talk about, I want this amazing relationship and I want this. You know, to experience all these things, and the intimacy, and the sex, and the, and the love, and the safety, and all this. And what I see is that a lot of men, when that shows up, will begin to sabotage it. They’ll begin to, um, behave out of character almost.

And so what it is, is their somatic body is doing things that their mind is not aware of. So the, the body remembers everything that the mind forgets. So we as conscious, like, so the body is where a lot of the unconscious, the subconscious lives. So subconscious is anywhere from 93 to 98 percent of our experience is unconscious.

So, um, as the 7 to, the 2 to 7 percent of our conscious is on and going, we want this relationship. There’s 93 percent of usually childhood programming that is saying, no, that’s not safe. And so what we do is we sabotage it, we ruin it. So, when we can get into the childhood programming, the um, the early childhood development, the, the parental figures, and then we get into the teenage years where, you know, you start to kind of come of age socially, um, when we can get clear and, and, and heal anything that happened in those years, The somatic body then has the space to hold the relationship or the money or the success or whatever it is that we desire.

So somatics is the thing that kind of trumps, like everyone talks about mindset coaching. The real work is in the body. How do you clear the, the body is a living library of all the things that we’ve ever experienced. Oftentimes. The things that the mind has forgotten about. And so, uh, we don’t know when the body, the nervous system, will get triggered into an unsafe moment because of a memory that it’s holding on to that we’re not conscious of.

So when we can create the somatic body, the bigger Bigger somatic body. We can, we can then hold a bigger experience of our life. 

Christian
Beautiful. And how can we clear that? Is there a simple technique that, you know, 

Sam Gibbs Morris
everyone wants the magic bullet. There’s not one, you know, it’s, um, it’s looking is the magic bullet.

It is like, where, where do I, um, you know, your life will give you feedback. Life is a constant internal, external feedback loop. And so, um, You know, let’s use money. For example, if you’re struggling with money, it’s, it’s worth looking. The first place you might want to look is that what stories were told around money in your house growing up.

So money doesn’t grow on trees. Um, you know, rich people are assholes. Um, you gotta work hard to make money. Um, these things that, um, Are not necessarily accurate programming that you may have been carrying around, um, for years, and it’s now influencing your experience of money as a 35 year old. Um, and so the real place to start is, um, current moment.

What’s my reality? What is my reality pointing to from my past that gets to be cleared so that I can have a More desirable experience of my life in the future and it doesn’t and you know It’s so it’s it could be shame shame is a big one for men. It could be Lack mentality it could be You know, we either you can either choose to say you live in a finite universe or an infinite universe I believe it’s an infinite universe.

So, looking at all these things that are the belief systems, the programs, the wounds, the traumas, it’s, it’s looking. And then once you get to looking, then you have modalities like, uh, like inner child work, you have um, somatics, you have NLP, you have, uh, ontological coaching, you have All these different things that you can then apply plant medicine that you can apply once you start looking at what the thing is that’s creating the problem.

Christian
So it’s first creating that space of just, yeah, the habit of looking. Right. The habit of awareness. Yeah. Like where do I, what happens, what comes up, right? Yeah. I think the step before that. Um, or in, in order to get to this awareness, I think in my opinion is slowing down. 

Sam Gibbs Morris
Of course. Right. Absolutely. Um, I love that you said that because it’s, um, you know, either you’re going to choose to slow down or life is going to give you reasons to slow down, AKA sickness, injury, um, you know, different reasons.

And, um, once we do slow down, we give a lot of stuff time to catch up to us. 

Christian
Beautiful. And you said in the beginning, um, of our conversation that, you know, you, you know, you learned a lot of lessons or you, you, you, but you had a lot, you know, you felt you found your face is what you said. Um,

tell us some excerpts, anecdotes of your life that would help us, you know, living more with this. You know, staying power. 

Sam Gibbs Morris
Yeah. I mean, I think the, the, the, the first one, um, the first like adult kind of grownup version of this was addiction. Um, I spent 20 years, you know, in and out, I was arrested 25 times. I was in and out of rehab six or seven times.

This is, you know, from age 30 to 38. Um, leading up, most of my twenties was spent heavily drinking, heavily partying, um, destructive behavior and it was that, you know, and for a while it felt like having fun and then it turned into not a lot of fun at all, you know, broken relationships and inability to hold a job.

Um, a lot of self hate, a lot of self punishment. Um, there was a, a suicide attempt in 2009. Um, a lot of this stuff was my lack of capacity, my lack of staying power because I hadn’t addressed things from my childhood that, um, first I used, uh, tennis. I became a very, really, really good tennis player. Um, and I used that to kind of cover up a lot of insecurities and a lot of, um, shame from childhood.

And then once the tennis career ended, I turned to drugs and alcohol and, um, used that as the, now the band aid on the bullet hole that was a lot of shame for me. And so, um, you know, I didn’t have staying power relationships. I didn’t have staying power in my career. I didn’t have staying power. Uh, with myself, you know, I was always doing things to sabotage or, um, you know, Colin, you know, there’s a brilliant quote by, uh, I think Carl Jung and it said, until you make the unconscious conscious, it will rule your life and you will call it fate.

And you know, I just had this thing that, oh, my fate is that, uh, I’m just not meant to be in love or I’m not meant to have a successful career because all these like weird, quote unquote, weird things kept happening to. Really what it was, was that I didn’t have the staying power to be with life. I didn’t have the ability to be with life as it is.

And so, um, coming out of the addiction when I was 38 years old, Um, you know, really the first thing that I had to look at was, um, a lot of anxiety, a lot of depression. And then as, as, you know, I’m 12 plus years of no drinking now and it’s like, okay, the last big thing that came to me was, um, underneath all of that was a deeply shameful experience of myself.

You know, so like if we want to separate like a little bit of a distinction here is guilt or shame, right? Guilt is. I did something bad. Shame is I am bad. And so what I know, uh, all my learnings and experience and, um, education and, um, work that I’ve done around my own shame is that shame begins when we are zero to eight years old, very, very young, early development developmental years.

We are, we try to get a basic need met and we, we experienced either rejection or humiliation for that basic need. So for me, I had severe asthma as a kid. And so, um, you know, I would breathing a basic human need, um, I would be made fun of or bullied because of my breathing and I felt very different from my peers.

So that landed in my body as shame. Now speaking back to the somatic thing is that, um, I didn’t recognize this until, um, You know, I felt it, but I didn’t recognize the weight or the, the, the, the, the hooks it had in me until I was in my early forties. And so I started doing the work on it and I recognized that I had all this like somatic memory of feeling very different than all my peers because of, because of the asthma.

And so then I got to word clearing that and so that and then, um, the addiction there, the basically inability to be with life, to be with myself. And then in relationships, what I would, what I would, what I learned is that, um, I was always looking for someone to save me because also going back to childhood, uh, being very, very sick, I had severe asthma, severe food allergies.

Um, spent a lot of time in the hospital, um, aka, you know, being saved, quote unquote saved. And so I would look to, at first, for the first 15 or 20 years of my life, it was my parents. And then I started to look to romantic relationships for saving and, um, you know, to, to, to say I love you, but really mean really meaning underneath that, will you save me is, it’s a very, uh, fragile place to build a relationship off of.

And so, um, you know, I would, I would do that thing where I would find a relationship where I, uh, I was in love and she was in love, but I would do something to, you know, sabotage it by being, by being avoidant or. Um, you know, breaking up with her just because I didn’t, I felt some kind of way and then I would, you know, come crawling back.

And so it was this pattern that developed relationships that, um, yeah, it was, I couldn’t be with that level of intimacy. I couldn’t be with that level of, um, closeness because I didn’t have the staying power. I didn’t have the, I didn’t have the nervous system capacity. To hold that. 

Christian
Hmm. Beautiful. Yeah.

Thanks. Thanks for sharing that. And for other men who experienced something similar, um, what were modalities that helped you other than obviously becoming aware and looking like what are other modalities that looked at that may be used to slow down and then. 

Sam Gibbs Morris
Yeah. Um, yeah. So, I mean, when I, when I first.

The beginning of it looked like a lot of, um, you know, reading books and, and that type of thing. Then it turned, then it kind of went into talk therapy. Um, I spent a lot of, like seven years, six years, no, probably more than that, probably nine years, um, in Alcoholics Anonymous and doing that work, the 12 step work.

That was, that was huge. Um, once I left Alcoholics Anonymous, then I got more onto like a deeper spiritual path that involved, um, a lot more meditation, a lot of journaling, um, breath work, plant medicine, ayahuasca, um, bufo, mushrooms, like a lot of this, a lot of these like plant allies that we have. Um, you know, uh, my path on the macro looked like doing a lot of work in a very conscious human place.

Like, I was just in, in talk therapy with myself and, you know, in the rooms of AA and, and doing a lot of stuff, like without anything else, um, you know, probably 12 years of, of like really, really, really intense, very sober work. And then, um, that kind of, that didn’t stop working, but I felt like I hit a ceiling with that.

And then I made a decision, uh, in 2019 to move on to more of the, the plant medicine pathway because I knew that I had accessed everything that I knew about, um, everything that I was consciously in my human awareness, I looked, I turned over every stone I could and I was starting to turn over old stones looking for new answers.

And so what I knew is that I needed some sort of a catalyst to Access some new information. So that’s when I got into the psychedelic work and that really really opened up a lot That’s when the deep shame healing started to happen Um, so that was kind of the trajectory of it. 

Christian
Wow, and do you Do you also facilitate?

Um Psychedelic work with, with, with your clients in any capacity. Yeah, 

Sam Gibbs Morris
yeah. Um, I would say that probably 95 percent of my clients, um, we, we do work with psychedelics and, you know, kind of mimicking my path is that we do a lot of work without psychedelics, without the medicine, um, in order to set ourselves up for success when it comes to using the medicine.

Um, you know, if, if. What’s that? 

Christian
How, how would, uh, how would a session with a client, for example, look like in like using psychedelics with? 

Sam Gibbs Morris
So I use a medicine called Bufo, which is 5 MeO DMT. It’s the most intense psychedelic that we have access to on the planet. Um, it comes from the Bufo alvarius, which is the Colorado river toad or the Sonoran desert toad.

Um, it’s, it’s a, it’s a toad that lives in the Sonoran desert of Mexico, Southwest United States. Uh, it actually lives underground for nine months out of the year, and then it comes out in the rainy season, and then The, uh, the Comcac Indians who live in that area have developed a way to, um, harvest the, the venom from the toad.

And this produces this molecule called 5 MeO DMT, which is the, you know, people call it the god molecule. Um, and it’s the, it’s, um, you know, most psychedelics are anywhere from like 4 to To 24 hours. If you’re talking about it, Volga, um, you know, four to 10 hours. If you’re talking about ayahuasca and this medicine is 20 minutes.

And so what it looks like is that the, you know, I’ll have my client come in. We’ll do, um, breath work. We’ll do, we’ll, we’ll kind of do some, uh, uh, meditation. We’ll do breath work, um, to get them into their body, to get them calmed. And then we’ll do, um, several rounds of the, uh, five MEO DMT, the Bufo. Um, and that medicine, um, it’s not like, um, uh, um, for those that are familiar, it’s not like mushrooms where there’s kind of, yeah, you’re interacting with the medicine in a way that’s like a conversation.

This is one where the medicine takes you, um, offline and you get a massive clearing of your systems. It’s, it’s a somatic therapy at its root. Um, a lot of people will come in and move their body around a lot. They’ll roll around, they’ll, they’ll flail their arms, they’ll make some noises. It’s releasing all this stored energy that’s been around for decades.

And, um, so that the, the ceremonies usually last about, um, three to five hours. And then at the end of the ceremony, uh, we sit down and we have like, we talk about what happened and process and then, um, I hold, um, I, I work with my clients for three months at a time. So usually this is kind of like towards the, the middle towards the end, not the end.

So usually if it’s three months, um, usually about the end of the second month we’ll, we’ll do a psychedelic ceremony and that way we have a month on the backend. To, um, to integrate. So integration is the biggest part of this whole process. Um, you know, people come and do these medicines and then it takes 30 to 90 days for everything from the ceremony to land.

And so usually like I, I work in three month increments, but usually it’s about a six month process with my. 

Christian
Beautiful. And what were some of the transformations, if you can share any that you were just like. Wow, I can’t believe that word. I guess. Yeah, 

Sam Gibbs Morris
I mean, it’s um, so a lot, there’s a lot, um, not a, not a, not a lot, but um, when I tell you what it is, it happens.

Very frequently. Um, all things being relative that people will come to us. Um, my, I served my wife and I served the medicine together. Um, people will come to us, um, couples or, um, the women or the men and having, they’ve been trying to get pregnant for years sometimes. And, um. Several times they’ve sat in ceremony, done the integration work, and then gotten pregnant, um, within weeks or months after the ceremony.

That’s a big, that’s a big like, aha, wow. Um, the other ones are that, you know, people have a different interaction with life. They feel lighter, they feel more tolerable. They feel that they can, they have a bigger capacity, like less things throw them off than before. Um, you know, a lot of people will, um, it’s, it’s a breakthrough moment.

Um, where like, you know, they felt like they’d been up against a glass ceiling, whether it’s financially or in a relationship or with their business. And they’ll do that. They’ll sit with us in ceremony. And then the thing that they’ve been trying for a year and a half to access. Is all of a sudden there for them and whether that’s a new level of income, whether that’s more clients, whether that’s some new innovation in their business, um, it really opens up a lot for people cause it creates space in your body.

Christian
How would someone know? I mean, of course, you know, we always trust in the individual guidance and internal like intuition, but how would someone know someone would be ready for? Like for work like this, you know,

Sam Gibbs Morris
it’s a, it’s a great question. Um, when you feel like, um, you, you’ve turned over every stone you can, um, and you’ve done a lot of work either with a coach or with a men’s group or, um, maybe couples therapy or, um, Just when you feel like you kind of like wow, I’m you know, like cycles are repeating patterns are repeating You’ve put in you feel like you’ve put in the time and you’ve read all the books and you know You’ve worked done all the things and talked it all out And there just seems to be something that the the human approach is not really working anymore It’s worth investigating If or which of these plants would be best use, best suited for you, um, it takes like, and I can’t emphasize this enough, give your, uh, very conscious, sober human a chance to work through all that it needs to before you, you start using the plants.

Um, if you start using the, the plant medicine, um, before you’re complete as a human. Uh, you’re, you’re going to potentially, um, end up with, um, some chaos, some destruction. 

Christian
You’re going to open more, you’re going to open up more than you might be able to handle, right? 

Sam Gibbs Morris
Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 

Christian
Ultimately, I feel, at the end of the day, like, Joe, to not get any prepared, like, if people go through things like that, it’s also, I think, because they kind of, like, ask for it.

If somebody does a plant medicine ceremony prematurely, you kind of asked for it, you know? So, so the things you have to do deal with it after, if you can, if you don’t have that like capacity or staying power, as you say, You’ll be invited to cultivate that. 

Sam Gibbs Morris
Yeah, absolutely. It will be thrust upon you. 

Christian
Yeah. Beautiful. 

Sam Gibbs Morris
So true. 

Christian
And, um, so if people are interested to, you know, know more about your work and your, uh, your wife’s work, like where, where would they find you guys? Do you guys have a website, a portal where they can reach you? 

Sam Gibbs Morris
Um, Instagram. Everything is kind of linked to the Instagram profile. Um, my Instagram is at Sam Gibbs Morris.

And my wife is at Michelle Hiratos, H I R A T O S. 

Christian
Got it. Beautiful. And where are you located if people are looking to also physically maybe be part of your retreats or ceremonies or? 

Sam Gibbs Morris
Yeah. Beautiful. Thank you for asking. Um, we are located in Austin, Texas. Um, and we, we do travel, like we’ve gone to LA.

We’ve gone to, um, different part of New York City, New York. We’ve gone to different parts of the country that, um, when we have clients that are there. 

Christian
Do you also offer private ceremonies? 

Sam Gibbs Morris
Yeah, they’re all private. Um, it’s all, it’s all one on one. We offer private, so it’s either me and my wife and a one on one client or me and my wife and a couple.

We do, we do a lot of, a lot of couple ceremonies. A lot of, it’s a beautiful medicine to work with um, someone, um, that you’re like a partner, a romantic partner because one is, it’s gonna, it’s gonna be a shared experience. Um, which is beautiful, but secondly, on the backside, you have someone, it creates a whole new language in your, in your, in your vortex.

Like you, you have access to new things that, um, if, if, if like, if I’m talking to someone that hasn’t done Bufo yet. Um, and I’m trying to explain to them what Bufo is. It’s not a lot of words can accurately do it. And so if you’re doing it with your romantic partner or your, you know, your life partner to have someone on the other side that you can communicate the experience with is super valuable, um, to help with the integration.

Christian
Yeah. Beautiful. Yeah. It kind of like reminds me of the, of the Dow, you know, you know, the Dow, the Ching, you know, it’s like what they say. First line of Dao is like Dao Ke Dao, which means, which means that, you know, the Dao that can be put into words that can be expressed, that can be defined is not the Dao.

It’s kind of like with plant medicines, like whatever you’re going to say about it, it’s probably, it’s more than that. You know what I mean? 

Sam Gibbs Morris
Yes. It’s a hundred percent accurate. Yes. 

Christian
I love it. Okay. So, and how many years back did you decide to like, This is going to be my path. Like I’m going to make a profession in a professional container.

Um, how did you declare this your passion? You know? 

Sam Gibbs Morris
Yeah. Um, it started in 2013.

Um, right after I had stopped drinking, I stopped drinking in 2012 and then. 2013, I moved to San Francisco and my, my first kind of, um, step onto like a coaching or a service based path was personal training and nutrition coaching. And so I did that, um, from 2014, 13 to 2017, um, I had my own personal training business in San Francisco.

And then, um, I, I moved out of the personal training and into the, the men’s work in, uh, in 2017. And then from there, um, It’s been it’s been an evolution, but it’s always been kind of like I work with men and a lot of times You know started off with like a lot of men would come to me You know in addiction and recovering from addictions and then you know some a lot of men would come then from there It would be a lot of mental health because under life underneath the addiction is a lot of pain You know Gabor Maté has a great quote It says don’t ask why the addiction ask why the pain and so once I recognize that I recognize that in myself I started helping a lot of guys with, you know, what’s beneath the addiction.

Okay. So there’s addiction there, but why? And so then from there, what I recognized was that, um, a big pain point for a lot of men is their romantic relationships. They, you know, they can figure out work and they can figure out. The gym and they can figure out money, but they have a hard time figuring out the feminine energy, the feminine, the, the women that are in front of them, like, I’m like, you know, it, what, what’s going on here?

Like, so what I recognize is that that’s really where I get to help men is like, how, because when men can properly, uh, relate to and hold. The, the, the feminine, the, the romantic partner in front of them, they can usually, it usually, and I say, usually, I mean, all the time, uh, directly correlates to how they hold the rest of their life.

And so once I, once I recognized that, um, that, that became, that was probably 2020 is 2019, 2020, uh, that became my focus. So I’ve been doing this now for five years, helping men in this, in this respect. 

Christian
Wow. And can you tell us of some milestones in terms of like entrepreneurship, like now that we know what you do and what it is that you, like the transformation that you facilitate with people, like what, like how did you see your business grow or is there anything, like how did that develop for you in your, in your case?

Sam Gibbs Morris
Yeah. Um, yeah, that’s, that’s a great question. There’s, there’s so many lenses we can put on that. There’s the financial one of. You know, six figure years and there’s, um, there’s the expansion around of like, um, you know, the word of mouth stuff, how like more people just like, you know, the, the, the growth of the business as far as like a volume of business done, um, just exponentially grows every year.

Um, you know, there’s, um, being invited on podcasts like this, like there’s, there’s so many markers of, you know, what, what, what I’m really about is. How can I impact as many, how can I influence or impact as many men, women, couples as possible? And so, uh, really what I base the, the, there’s all the metrics.

There’s the, you know, the number of clients worked with, there’s the number of retreats done, there’s the amount of money made. Like those are all great. They’re, they’re direct representations of the impact that I’m having. And so as those, like it’s, um, you know, It’s not linear, but it’s always upward. And so, um, just looking, looking at the, kind of the holistic approach to that has been the most, uh, I I’d say profound realization that I’ve had as an entrepreneur is that the more that I can focus on the people, the relationships, the, the impact of it, the rest of the stuff magically falls into place.

Christian
Isn’t that beautiful? 

Sam Gibbs Morris
Yeah. It’s a relief. It’s a relief to be honest 

Christian
with you. When we take care of the people that we, that we serve. It really just amplifies our mission, everything that we do. 

Sam Gibbs Morris
Totally a hundred percent. 

Christian
Beautiful. So we’re coming up towards the end of the episode. Um, is there anything you would like to share with the audience before we let them go, and then the last part of the episode, I always like to give over to you, to the, to the, um, QE that really.

To like just calling your vision like what are what are future goals that you have as a spiritual entrepreneur as a brand? Like what are you looking to call in? 

Sam Gibbs Morris
Yeah, 

Christian
and um, and then kind of like the outro where people can find you But yeah, let’s let’s start with like, what do you? What’s like one thing you wanna leave people with?

Sam Gibbs Morris
Hmm. I would say the one thing to leave people with is, um, the, uh,

the, the key is in the body, the keys to like the success, the relationship, um, the life that you desire to live is it, it’s in your body. The answers lie in your body. And so the more that we can get at as human beings, the safest place for us is in thoughts. In analytics, in logic, because it’s so safe for us to think.

It’s why, um, worry and hope are the same thing. They’re both, they both make us feel like we’re doing something about a thing, but we’re not really doing anything about it. So hope is like, I’m hoping, but like, where’s the, where’s the feet movement on that? Worrying is the same way. They’re like rocking chairs.

You know, you’re moving. But you’re not moving forward. And so that’s where, that’s where it feels safe for us as humans to exist. When we can drop out of our heads and turn off the head and allow the body and the heart magnetism, the heart coherence to lead us, um, that’s when true transformation happens in, in, in life is when we can get out of our head and into the embodiment of the work.

So I think like the thing I would leave is that, um, Just notice how embodied you are or how much in your head are you, you know? And so there’s know that the more you can get into your body and the more you can trust the wisdom of your body We are electrical fields. That’s what we as humans. That’s what we are.

And so that comes from our heart That’s the the nine feet all around us is an electrical field that comes from our heart And so the more we can allow that to lead The better off we’re going to be. 

Christian
Oh, beautiful. That’s, um, that’s really cool to leave our listeners with that. And then last part, like, what are you looking to call into your life?

Sam Gibbs Morris
Yeah. Um, so this year is, um, it’s big on, um, you know, the one on one coaching stuff. Um, but it’s really, this year is about, um, getting into retreats, um, and group coaching programs. So I have a group, uh, launching April 1st called Buffalo Mountain. It’s a 12 week men’s container. Um, it’s going to have 24 guys in it, 24 to 30 guys.

And we’re going to go on a 12 week journey, uh, into the inner wilderness that. That lives inside us and we’re gonna, you know, look for the edges and, and uproot the edges and turn over all the stones and then, um, that’s coming up. So there’s gonna be more of that, um, and retreats, in person stuff like, you know, going to Costa Rica or going to Sedona or, um, maybe somewhere in Europe, um, to, to host, um, some either men’s or couples.

My wife and I have some couples retreats too. 

Christian
Beautiful. I love it. And, uh, last but not least, uh, you mentioned already, like, Instagram, but is there anywhere else where people can find you? 

Sam Gibbs Morris
Um, yeah, Insta, all the social medias, Instagram, Facebook, um, LinkedIn, YouTube, uh, the, the website is samgibbsmorris.com.

That’s where, that’s the website, but again, you go to the Instagram and the link to that will be there. So the Instagram is at Sam Gibbs Morris, G I B B S. 

Christian
Got it. Beautiful. Thank you so much for your time. I really appreciate it. Thanks for blessing us with all your wisdom, your knowledge, your experience, your heart, your soul.

And um, yeah, thank you. 

Sam Gibbs Morris
Thank you too. Thank you. Thank you Christian for having me. It’s been a pleasure to be here.