Dr. Dain Heer: Being You, Consciousness Tools & Creating with Ease | Ep71

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Dr. Dain Heer is an internationally renowned author, speaker, and facilitator of consciousness and change whose work has touched people in more than 170 countries. Born and raised in California, he originally trained as a chiropractor but later discovered transformative tools that shifted his life and ultimately shifted his purpose toward helping others access their own abilities and knowing.

He is perhaps best known as the co-creator of Access Consciousness, a global movement focused on shifting awareness and possibility, and for his powerful Energetic Synthesis of Being process. Dr. Heer is also the bestselling author of Being You, Changing the World—a book that inspired many to live more fully and authentically—and the founder of International Being You Day, celebrated annually to honor individual uniqueness. 

Christian sits down with Dr. Dain Heer — internationally renowned speaker, bestselling author, and co-creator of Access Consciousness, a global movement active in over 170 countries. From a childhood marked by abuse and poverty to a career as a chiropractor who once felt suicidal, Dain’s life radically changed when he discovered practical consciousness tools that opened a completely different way of living and creating.

In this conversation, Dain shares powerful insights on authenticity, self-judgment, money, and what it truly means to be you. If you’ve ever felt stuck trying to fix yourself, conflicted about success and spirituality, or unsure how to trust your own knowing, this episode offers grounded tools and fresh perspectives to help you create a lighter, more expansive life — starting exactly where you are.

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Introduction

What if the most powerful thing you could bring to your life, your business, and your relationships isn’t another strategy—but being authentic?

In this episode of the Successful Spiritualpreneur Podcast, Dr. Dain Heer explores why being you is not just a personal ideal, but a practical force that changes how you create, decide, receive, and show up in the world. Rather than focusing on surface-level improvement or performance, this conversation dives into the deeper mechanics of self-awareness, judgment, and conscious choice—and how they directly shape your reality.

This article unpacks the core insights from the conversation, especially for readers who may be new to Dr. Dain’s work or to Access Consciousness, and want grounded, usable ideas rather than abstract theory.

You’ll discover:

  • Why authenticity is described as the strongest “signal” or vibration you can embody
  • How self-judgment quietly limits possibility in life and business
  • A simple way to tell what’s true for you using the “lighter vs. heavier” awareness tool
  • How asking better questions opens doors that conclusions shut down
  • Why money is framed as a byproduct of creation, not a measure of worth
  • What it really means to just start, even when fear or doubt is present

Whether you’re a spiritual entrepreneur, a creator, or simply someone feeling constrained by expectations, this piece is an invitation to reconnect with what you already know—and to explore what becomes possible when you stop trying to fix yourself and start trusting your awareness.

Part 1: Why Being Authentic Is the Strongest Signal You Can Send

One of the central ideas in this conversation is deceptively simple: being authentic isn’t just a personal value—it’s a felt signal that others respond to immediately.

Dr. Dain Heer describes authenticity as the strongest “vibration” a person can embody. Not stronger than intelligence. Not stronger than strategy. Stronger than image, performance, or branding. And the reason is practical, not poetic: people can feel when something is real.

At a time when content, marketing, and even personal expression are increasingly filtered through automation and optimization, authenticity stands out because it can’t be faked for long.

What being authentic actually does:

  • It creates trust without explanation
  • It generates magnetic attraction without persuasion
  • It signals coherence—your inner world matches your outer expression
  • It allows people to relax around you, because nothing is being hidden

As Dain points out, the world has long tried to sell the idea that success comes from polishing an image:

  • looking better
  • sounding smarter
  • appearing more confident
  • following the “right” formula

But something has shifted.

People are increasingly drawn to those who are simply being themselves, even if that self is imperfect, unconventional, or still unfolding. There’s a reason overly polished content often falls flat—it lacks presence.

Key insight from this section:

  • Authenticity isn’t a branding tactic
  • It’s an energetic alignment between what’s true internally and what’s expressed externally
  • When that alignment is present, people respond—often without knowing why

This is especially relevant for creators, healers, and spiritual entrepreneurs who may feel pressure to present themselves a certain way in order to be taken seriously. The paradox is that the more someone tries to manufacture credibility, the less impact they often have.

The real question this section invites is:

  • What would change if you stopped trying to be “better” and focused on being truer?

Because according to this conversation, being you isn’t the obstacle to success—it’s the doorway.

Part 2: You Already Know — Reconnecting with Your Inner Knowing

One of the most grounding moments in this conversation is the reminder that beneath all doubt, analysis, and external noise, there is something steady and reliable already operating within you: your knowing.

Dr. Dain Heer emphasizes that most people aren’t disconnected from truth—they’re disconnected from trusting themselves. Over time, conditioning, authority, and repeated self-questioning train us to override what we sense in favor of what we’re told is logical, acceptable, or safe.

But knowing doesn’t require proof. It shows up before explanation.

Signs you’re accessing inner knowing:

  • You sense clarity before you can articulate it
  • You feel a quiet “yes” or “no” without needing justification
  • Your body responds before your mind does
  • You recognize truth without effort or debate

To make this tangible, Dain invites a simple reflection exercise:

  • Recall a time you chose something even though you knew it wasn’t right—and it turned out exactly as you expected
  • Recall another moment when you chose something others doubted, but you knew—and it worked

Those moments are evidence that you know, even when you pretend you don’t.

What often blocks access to knowing:

  • Overthinking and mental looping
  • Looking for external permission
  • Confusing doubt with intelligence
  • Believing certainty must come with explanation

A key distinction from this section is that knowing isn’t loud or dramatic. It doesn’t argue. It doesn’t convince. It simply is.

Core insight:

  • Knowing is not something you develop—it’s something you allow
  • The more you acknowledge it, the quieter doubt becomes
  • Trusting yourself reduces the need for constant reassurance

This is particularly relevant in moments of decision-making, especially in life and business, where people often delay action waiting for certainty that never arrives.

The invitation here isn’t to be reckless—it’s to be honest.

A powerful question to sit with:

  • Where in your life are you already aware of what’s true, but still pretending you’re unsure?

Because the moment you stop dismissing your knowing, choice becomes simpler—and life begins to feel less like a struggle and more like a collaboration with yourself.

Part 3: Light vs. Heavy — A Practical Tool for Knowing What’s True

Once you begin acknowledging that you know, the next question becomes: how do you recognize what’s true in real time?

This is where one of the most practical tools from this conversation comes in—the distinction between lighter and heavier.

Dr. Dain Heer explains that truth doesn’t just exist as an idea. It registers in the body.

A simple principle:

  • What’s true for you will always feel lighter
  • A lie will always feel heavier

This isn’t metaphorical. It’s experiential.

What lightness can feel like:

  • A sense of openness or ease
  • Relaxation in the chest, belly, or breath
  • A quiet “this fits” feeling
  • Expansion, space, or curiosity

What heaviness often feels like:

  • Constriction or pressure
  • A knot in the stomach or chest
  • Mental resistance or dread
  • The urge to escape, numb, or disappear

One of the biggest conditioning patterns most people carry is the belief that their job is to take what feels heavy and “make it work.” Push through. Endure. Fix themselves until it feels right.

But this approach often leads to:

  • Chronic burnout
  • Resentment
  • Self-betrayal disguised as responsibility
  • Choosing against yourself while calling it maturity

A key reframe from this section:

  • If something feels heavy, it may not be wrong—but it’s not true for you
  • You cannot turn a lie into truth through effort
  • Awareness comes before change

This tool becomes especially powerful when applied to everyday choices:

  • Conversations you keep forcing
  • Projects you feel obligated to finish
  • Commitments that drain rather than energize
  • Content, offers, or directions that feel “off”

Instead of asking:

  • “How do I make this work?”

Try asking:

  • What about this feels heavy?
  • If this isn’t true for me, what is?
  • What choice would create more lightness?

The long-term impact of using this tool consistently is subtle but profound.

Over time:

  • Decisions become simpler
  • You stop over-explaining yourself
  • Your life contains less friction
  • You build momentum by choosing with yourself, not against yourself

As Dain points out, if enlightenment has any practical meaning at all, it should involve lightness. And choosing what’s lighter—again and again—is one of the fastest ways to get there.

Part 4: Judgment vs. Questions — How Possibility Expands or Collapses

After understanding knowing and the lighter vs. heavier tool, the next layer is seeing what most often shuts both of them down: judgment.

Dr. Dain Heer makes a clear distinction—judgment doesn’t just limit options, it locks reality into place.

The moment you judge, you stop receiving new information.

What judgment does:

  • It contracts awareness
  • It filters out anything that doesn’t match the conclusion
  • It reinforces the same outcomes again and again
  • It creates the illusion of certainty while removing choice

Common judgments people run on themselves:

  • “I’m bad at business.”
  • “This never works for me.”
  • “I’m not disciplined enough.”
  • “I always mess this up.”

These statements feel like observations—but they function as energetic commands.

The alternative is deceptively simple: ask a question.

Why questions change everything:

  • They expand awareness instead of narrowing it
  • They invite new data, ideas, and timing
  • They interrupt automatic mental loops
  • They open pathways the mind can’t predict

A powerful distinction from this section:

  • Conclusions contract
  • Questions expand

Instead of:

  • “My business is failing.”

Try:

  • What else is possible here?
  • What would it take to change this?
  • What am I not seeing yet?

Instead of:

  • “There’s something wrong with me.”

Try:

  • What’s right about me I’m not getting?

One of the most important insights here is that judgment feels productive, but it rarely is. It gives the mind something to chew on while quietly shutting down creativity.

This is especially relevant for spiritual entrepreneurs and creators who spend a lot of time self-evaluating, refining, and trying to “get it right.”

What shifts when you replace judgment with questions:

  • You regain access to curiosity
  • You stop personalizing temporary outcomes
  • You respond rather than react
  • You create space for solutions that weren’t visible before

The invitation in this section is not to stop thinking—it’s to stop deciding too soon.

Because the moment you choose a question over a judgment, you reopen possibility. And possibility is where change actually begins.

Part 5: Money, Spirituality, and the Willingness to Receive

One of the most charged—and avoided—topics in spiritual and conscious spaces is money. Not because it’s complicated, but because it’s saturated with judgment.

Dr. Dain Heer addresses this directly by dismantling a core misunderstanding: money is not the source of creation—it’s a byproduct of it.

For many healers, creators, and spiritual entrepreneurs, the desire to serve is genuine. But layered beneath that desire is often an unspoken belief that wanting money somehow makes them less pure, less conscious, or less “spiritual.”

This creates an internal split.

Common unconscious beliefs around money:

  • “If I care about money, I’m not spiritual enough.”
  • “Good people don’t want too much.”
  • “Money changes people for the worse.”
  • “If I receive more, someone else loses.”

Dain reframes this entirely by pointing out:

  • Money itself has no point of view
  • It is neutral—like a tool
  • What matters is how it’s used, not that it exists

A key reframe from this section:

  • Money is not the source
  • Creation is the source
  • Money simply follows what’s being created

Two questions from this conversation that radically shift perspective:

  • What is the purpose of money in my life?
  • Can I change more people’s realities with money or without it?

For many listeners, the honest answer is uncomfortable—and liberating.

Another crucial distinction:

  • Wanting to contribute does not require rejecting receiving
  • Refusing money doesn’t make your work more sacred
  • It often just makes your life harder

At the core of most so-called “money problems” is not a lack of opportunity, but a lack of willingness to receive.

What blocks receiving:

  • Moral judgments
  • Guilt inherited from family or culture
  • Fear of visibility or responsibility
  • Beliefs about who you’d have to become if you had more

When those judgments soften, something unexpected happens:

  • Work feels lighter
  • Opportunities show up with less force
  • Receiving no longer feels like compromise
  • Contribution and abundance coexist

This section invites a simple but confronting inquiry:

  • If money were no longer a moral issue, what would change in how you create?

Because when receiving becomes as natural as giving, money stops being a struggle—and starts functioning as what it actually is: a resource that amplifies what you’re already here to do.

Part 6: Just Start — Why Waiting for Perfect Keeps You Stuck

As the conversation turns toward creation, business, and bringing ideas into the world, one theme becomes unmistakably clear: most people don’t fail because they lack talent or vision—they stall because they’re waiting for perfect.

Dr. Dain Heer cuts through this hesitation with a simple directive: just start.

Not later.
Not when you’re more confident.
Not when the plan is flawless.

Now.

Why waiting for perfect is so seductive:

  • It feels responsible
  • It disguises fear as preparation
  • It avoids visibility and risk
  • It keeps identity intact

But perfection has a cost—it prevents momentum.

A key insight from this section:

  • There is no perfect beginning
  • Every meaningful creation evolves after it starts
  • Clarity comes from movement, not thinking

Dain emphasizes that every business, project, or offering that now looks “successful” had:

  • Missteps
  • Course corrections
  • Periods of uncertainty
  • Moments of wanting to quit

The difference wasn’t confidence. It was continuation.

This is especially relevant for spiritual entrepreneurs who often feel pressure to:

  • Be fully healed before offering
  • Have everything figured out before charging
  • Eliminate doubt before acting

But growth doesn’t happen in isolation—it happens through engagement.

A grounded approach suggested in the conversation:

  • Start small
  • Test without overcommitting
  • Share with people you trust
  • Gather feedback without making it personal

One of the most practical reframes here:

  • You don’t need to risk everything to begin
  • You don’t need to quit your job to create
  • You just need to take the next honest step

The real block isn’t fear—it’s self-judgment about fear.

When you stop judging yourself for being unsure, action becomes easier. When action becomes easier, momentum builds. And once momentum exists, many of the questions you thought needed answers… resolve themselves.

The invitation in this section is direct:

  • What have you been postponing that could only become clearer if you started?

Because starting doesn’t require certainty—it creates it.

Conclusion

When you step back and look at the full arc of this conversation, a simple but radical truth emerges: you don’t need to become someone else to create a different life. You need to stop abandoning who you already are.

Across each part of this article, one theme keeps returning—being you is not a concept to understand, but a practice to live.

What this conversation ultimately invites is a shift:

  • from self-judgment to awareness
  • from forcing outcomes to choosing what’s lighter
  • from waiting for permission to trusting your knowing
  • from fearing money to being willing to receive
  • from planning endlessly to starting

None of these require perfection. They require presence.

Dr. Dain Heer leaves listeners with a reminder that cuts through comparison, doubt, and performance:

  • You are not wrong
  • You are not broken
  • You are a gift and a contribution

The world doesn’t change because people try harder to fit in. It changes when individuals are willing to stand in their difference without apology.

A final invitation to sit with:

  • What if you being you—as imperfect, unconventional, and unfinished as you are—is exactly what’s required right now?

If there is one takeaway to carry forward, let it be this:

  • Never quit
  • Never give up
  • Never give in

Because the moment you stop judging yourself and start trusting your awareness, life stops feeling like something to fix—and starts revealing itself as something to create.

Podcast Transcript

Christian Mauerer
What’s up, beautiful people? This is Christian from the Successful Spiritualpreneur Podcast. And today I’m very excited to have Dr. Dain here on the show. He is the co-creator of Access Consciousness, which is a global movement in 170 countries. That’s a lot of countries. I might as well say the whole world. And he’s also the international bestselling author of Being You, Changing the World. He grew up in Los Angeles facing abuse,

poverty and then became a successful chiropractor who was ⁓ at some point suicidal. And Dain discovered consciousness tools that transformed everything for him. So for over the past 20 years, he’s facilitated millions worldwide through his signature energetic synthesis of being process and being you classes as well as the symphony of possibilities work. He also founded the International Being You Day.

and teaches that being authentically yourself is how you change the world. Welcome to the show, Dain.

Dr. Dain Heer
Thanks for having me.

Christian Mauerer
Yay. I want to start out with the question. I’ve heard that, ⁓ you know, sometimes the bioelectric field of the heart is like 60 times stronger than the ones of the mind, if I remember correctly, something like that. And then I’ve heard that even like being authentically you is even stronger. I’m not sure if there’s a comparison with numbers, but like being you is a very strong vibration is what I’m trying to say. ⁓ Can you speak to that?

Dr. Dain Heer
Yeah, it’s actually the strongest, if you will. Like you pointed out, you know, you have heart, have mind. Heart is so much stronger than the mind. And what the being involves is it involves your heart. But so let’s say being authentic, as you said, you know, great way of describing it creates. And I don’t remember the numbers either, you know, but I saw the study. was like, holy crap, like, like literally more than anything else. That is the strongest vibration there is.

And it’s when you’re in alignment with what’s true for you. And there are, you know, we’re drawn to people who are authentically them. And there’s a reason for that. There’s a magnetic attraction to that when somebody is truly being themselves. even though the world we live in would tell you that it’s about having a better image so that you can get more followers and more likes and more business and more everything else.

Actually, at this point in time, people are drawn to those who are more authentic, which is one of the reasons people who use a lot of AI and what they do, if they use specifically AI for the generation of content, et cetera, it’s like it doesn’t get the traction oftentimes because people know, and people know when you’re being authentic.

Christian Mauerer
How refreshing. We do have some hope with this whole AI thing coming up. AI is so helpful, but it’s also a little scary. know what I mean? like, woo. So many skills and tasks and places that AI will replace humans as the actual doers, which, mean, on one hand, it’s really great because we get freed up to do what we’re actually put here to do, which is to become ourselves authentically. ⁓

Dr. Dain Heer
Yeah.

Yeah, true story.

Christian Mauerer
And what does that even mean? Right. So that’s, that’s, think that’s a long journey for all of us. Maybe not to get there, but the unfoldment of it, because there’s so much that we can become what we can become into. Like we can be anything if we want to. Right. So with that being said, how do you look back on your work? Like you started out in the early nineties with this work, with the consciousness work, like

What is it like building a legacy like you have?

Dr. Dain Heer
You know, for me, I wake up every day with such gratitude. It’s one of those things where if you had told me 25 years ago, 35 years ago, I would have created this. I would have looked for it every day and say, have you shown up yet? But that’s not the way it works. We just need to take a step every single day in the direction of the life we’d like to have.

And you look back 25 years later like, holy crap, this is awesome. So for me, I wake up every day with an immense sense of gratitude for so many things, for the Access Consciousness business, but even more so for the thousands of people I’m connected with around the world that I seek it lighter every day. Because one of the ways Access Consciousness is unique from other things is we give you tools to use in the trenches of life so that your life doesn’t…

Because most people go along and they have so much baggage and their only option seems to be to try to avoid it to get through their life. And what we do in Access is, no, let’s turn around, let’s look at it, but let’s change it now. We don’t have to walk around with all the baggage and it doesn’t take 25 years of meditating to get there. You can change it moment by moment, day by day as it comes up. And to know that I’ve gifted so many people those tools.

For me, that’s one of the great gifts of what I do and one of the great gifts of being alive for me.

Christian Mauerer
Yeah, yeah, it must be incredible to know to impact thousands of lives, you know. ⁓ So kudos and congrats on that ⁓ achievement. And it doesn’t happen overnight, you know.

Dr. Dain Heer
definitely doesn’t happen overnight. And I also want to say, I say that with a level of humility where it’s, and for me also, it’s not even about me, it’s about us. It’s about the fact that we each have so much more available and to see people start to access that and know it and not just live the small life they thought they could have. It’s like, as far as when I look at,

what is the value of being alive? What do want people to say about me after I’m gone? It’s that he showed us how to be us, you know? And he was there contributing, supporting, and doing whatever he could to contribute while simultaneously living a life that he loved. Because you can’t do either or and do either one successfully.

Christian Mauerer
And let’s dive a little bit more into your work. So for people who’ve never heard of access consciousness, can you just give us a brief breakdown of what it is and how people can use it to improve their lives?

Dr. Dain Heer
Yeah, it’s basically a set of tools, techniques, information, awarenesses, ways of handling things that allow you to access the consciousness that’s already within you so you can create the miraculous life you always knew was possible that you haven’t been able to create so far.

Christian Mauerer
And what’s, I guess, a popular technique or a method or something that, you know, you would recommend our listeners to start maybe trying out or reship.

Dr. Dain Heer
Oh, so many things. We have over 8,000 tools that we work with, which sounds like a lot, you just, you know, do one at a time. But, you know, we have classes live and online all around the world. We have books. It’s like, so it’s a huge body of work that actually addresses any area of life you want to change. And even the areas you’re already having success, how can you make those greater? But let me give two real simple tools.

that might start changing people’s perspective. One of which, okay, three. ⁓ By the way, I have ADHD like crazy, so ⁓ I tend to go off on all kinds of tangents. So if you’re listening and you’re like me, ⁓ thank you. And if you’re not like me, I’m sorry. So first is this, we need to acknowledge that what I’d like to let everybody know is you know, okay? You know what’s true for you. You know when someone is lying. You know when something is a lie.

And I want to acknowledge that right up front because if we can start to access our knowing, then that nagging doubt we live with our entire lives can start to dissipate. Because when you know that you know, you don’t have to doubt, you can go into question. So number one, you know, and if you’ll just believe me on that for a moment. And then after the podcast, start looking for areas in your life in which you chose something and you knew not to choose it and it worked out and you chose it anyway.

and you knew not to, and it worked out just as badly as you knew it would. Okay? That’s an acknowledgement that you know. And also look for a few times in your life where you chose something that nobody else even could perceive was possible, or they said you can’t, it’s not gonna work, and you knew and you chose, and it worked out. And to the extent that we can start to access our knowing, our lives start to become a lot richer and fuller, but a lot easier and more miraculous.

So number one, know. Number two, what’s true for you will always make you lighter. A lie will always make you heavier. So if we think about light, it’s like hanging out with friends that don’t judge you, having a wonderful conversation or going out in nature where it feels like you can finally relax and be. It’s got that sense to it. So when something is true for you, it’s kind like your whole world lightens up. It’s like, ⁓ that’s cool. It just kind of lands.

and it doesn’t have any rough edges, know, it doesn’t feel like broken glass in your world. But something that’s not true, it has a heaviness to it and the difficulty is we’ve all been conditioned to believe that our job is to take the heavy things and turn them into lightness. But in actuality, we would be far more successful with far more ease if we acknowledge if this is heavy for me, if this feels a twist in my guts, if it makes me want to hyperventilate.

If it makes you want to disappear because it’s so yuck, then it’s not true for me. Then what is true for me? Because you can’t take something that’s a lie and make it true without getting the awareness that it’s a lie. And most people don’t even have this concept. They think all these heavy things that bombard them every day are something they should follow. an example, you you’ll watch a YouTube video or something and

some conspiracy theory or something right before bed, and you feel twisted and bent and yuck, but you keep watching, it’s like the train wreck, you’re like, dude, turn the channel. Well, notice when you start going into that twist and realize, ⁓ this isn’t true, or at the very least, it’s not true for me. once this utilizes the fact that we know, and if we’re willing to recognize,

What’s true makes us lighter, lie makes us heavier. And if we’ll choose more things that make us lighter, over time what happens is you’ll look back and if you just, if you got nothing else out of today other than I’m gonna choose more of what makes me lighter, I’m gonna stop choosing what makes me heavier and I’m gonna stop trying to figure it out because I can’t bring blood out of a turnip. So what happens is six months from now you’ll look back and go, wow, my life is so much.

lighter than it was. I’ve got so much more lightness. And, you know, if we’re talking about enlightenment, there you go. know, enlightenment should be light. And so that’s the space of dancing to your own drummer, but also following your awareness. And the third tool I like to give people is ask a question instead of coming to conclusion and judgment. Because whenever you make a judgment, nothing that doesn’t match that judgment can come into your world. So if you decide

You know, my business is crap, it’s never gonna succeed. That’s exactly what you see. Quantum physics tells us when you vibrate that way, that’s what shows up. Okay, so access is kind of like where consciousness meets quantum physics. It’s the awarenesses, but it’s also the practicality of bringing those awarenesses into your world, so your world is better. So if we can ask a question, let’s say you look at your business and it starts going down, well,

Rather than, my God, it’s going down, what do I do? You can go, hey, what else is possible? What’s it gonna take to change this? What do I have to look at to find out what is creating this? And also, for ourselves, a great question is what’s right about me I’m not getting. That one simple act of asking a question instead of coming to conclusion opens up possibilities like this. It goes like this, whereas a judgment,

pigeonholes and it puts it like there’s walls to the left and right. So by the way, if you’re listening instead of watching, when you ask a question, it expands. When you come to a judgment or conclusion, it contracts because the universe has no choice other than to deliver to you your judgment or conclusion. To the extent that we can stop that, we can create something different.

Christian Mauerer
Hmm. I love that. You also have a number one bestselling book that’s translated into 20 languages. And ⁓ you’ve received many hundreds of emails, maybe even thousands. I mean, I’m not sure. ⁓ Of readers who say your book inspired them to live. So.

maybe in a couple of sentences, what’s in that book that inspires people to live or to reach them, to touch them at that level?

Dr. Dain Heer
Well, it’s called Being You, Changing the World. And it really is about accessing what is uniquely you. And it’s one of those books that you read and you go on this energetic journey where you’re just somehow different afterwards. And I give a lot of tools in the book, once again, so people can use in the trenches of life. But you know how there are certain books after you read them? You’re just different. It’s added itself into your world, hopefully in a really beautiful way.

That’s what the Being You Changing the World book, that’s what people tell me this book has done. They say, I feel like I’m no longer alone, I feel like I’m no longer wrong, and I’m actually looking forward to creating my life in a way I never have been before, and I feel like I’ve got the tools.

Christian Mauerer
Yeah, it’s so powerful. I think if you’re able to trigger a belief change, a behavior change in people, like I think that is so deep. You know, it’s not just an intellectual concept that you’re trying to communicate here. actually, by people reading this book, they report that they have taken an action, changed their lives, which is incredible. So that means that the energetic thought flow

⁓ that you convey in a book must touch them on a very deep level.

Dr. Dain Heer
Well, that actually is a target. And also with everything that we do with access consciousness, like I did so many things before this on my spiritual journey that were highly significant a lot of times, but I would do it anyway, because somebody would say it would work, but it didn’t really create a result. When you use access consciousness tools, you know it’s working in the moment of using it for most of them. Why? Because you go from heavier

to lighter and you know it. And once again, when you’re lighter, you’re being more of you.

Christian Mauerer
Hmm.

Let’s talk a little bit with that aspect about business. So, yes, of course, all of this is a business somewhere for you, but it comes so much from the inside, which is what a lot of, I would say, spiritual driven entrepreneurs are doing, right? They take what is uniquely them and share with the world. ⁓ And sometimes.

It’s a very interesting observation. Like we have a lot of clients at LovePix agency also that come through at the end of the day. it’s not really that they care about making money. just mainly they want to share. They just mainly want to share their gifts and what they have maybe learned or uniquely mastered with other people and how it has helped them in the past. So how is that?

How does that energy, I guess that’s the question, how does that energy create abundance for them?

Dr. Dain Heer
Well, we need to recognize that as the healers and the seekers of the world, exact people you’re talking about, they don’t care about money. They’re not exactly what you said. They’re not doing it for the money. They want to share their gift. And when they see someone light up, their gift has been received and they’re acknowledged. And that’s what they wanted to do. You know, I’m the same way. It’s like, I don’t give a crap about money, but we need to make a distinction also.

And that is just because money is not your driving factor doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be willing to receive it. Because the other trap that we get into is we live in a world that tries to tell you everything is black and white, positive or negative, right or wrong, good or bad. for the healers of the world, they’re like, ⁓ well, you know what? People with money are bad. They have this weird inherent guilt complex about having money as though

Money is somehow evil. You know, in the Bible it says money is the root of all evil. No, it says the love of money is the root of all evil. Meaning, loving money over yourself and your creations and making money the source. See, money is not the source. Money is the byproduct of creation. And if we can recognize that, and here’s the other part is, most of the people that you’re talking about, lot of people listening to this podcast,

would actually really like to have a lot of money because they would like the nice things that it would create and simultaneously they judge themselves for that as though now I’m being a bad spiritual person. It’s one of the reasons I do access consciousness instead of access spirituality because consciousness, we have a definition of consciousness which is where everything exists and nothing is judged. Everything exists and nothing is judged. So even judgment isn’t judged. Even…

⁓ selfishness isn’t judged, even a love of money is not judged. But also what that allows you is the willingness to include money in the computation, which is really all it takes is our willingness to say, yes, I realize money is not a bad thing. I’ve seen a lot of people with money who’ve done a lot of bad things, quote unquote, if we want to put it in that context. But I’ve also seen a lot of people with money who’ve done some great things.

I know so many people who have no money who’ve done terrible things, and so many people with a lot of money who have done terrible things, and I know so many people in both camps that have done wonderful things. So it’s not about the money, Okay, so your willingness to have money should be your choice. And Gary Douglas, the founder of Access Consciousness, he founded it back in, I know, 1986 or something. And I came along 25 years ago. But when I first came along, money was one of my biggest issues because

I, like so many of the people we’re talking about, a lot of you might be able to relate, was like, I just was struggling with money my whole life. And he said two things to me. He said, number, I don’t know that I remember the second one, but let me tell you the one that changed my willingness to have money. He said, the purpose of money is to change people’s realities. And I went, what? He’s like, yeah, the purpose of money is to change people’s realities.

Christian Mauerer
Hmm

Dr. Dain Heer
And I went, okay, well, and he’s like, so do want to change the world for the greater? I’m like, of course. That’s what I wake up thinking about. That’s why I do everything I do. He’s like, can you, ⁓ this is the other question. Can you change the world more with money or without money? And I went, well, I can do, I’ve done a lot without money. He’s like, can you change it more with money or without money? And would it be easier with money or without money? I went, my God, I can change it a lot more with money.

Because I started thinking of big things like buying up parts of the Amazon or being able to create centers for people, like all these things I wasn’t even, couldn’t have conceived of at the time. And so those two questions changed my whole financial reality. The purpose of money is to change people’s realities. And can you change the world more with money or without money? And for me, and I’m hoping that in asking those questions that some people out there might start.

to get on a road to more freedom because fundamentally business success and financial success is based on a willingness to receive. There’s actually no such thing as a money issue. There’s only an issue in what you’re willing to receive or not. And it’s our judgments and our projections about what things mean and what they are that keep us from being willing to receive them. So if you somewhere along the line bought the judgment that

Rich people aren’t happy and rich people destroy things and money is the root of all evil. Well, now you have, how are you gonna have money under those conditions? Do you think money wants to come and play with you? No, you it’s like, you’re like saying, hey, it’s like inviting a friend to a party. You’re like, hey, do you wanna come to my party? Like, yeah, what’s it gonna be like? Well, there’s gonna be a lot of judgment and everybody’s gonna hate you and everybody won’t want you there and everybody will think you were evil. Do you wanna come? You’re like, no.

Well, it’s the same thing with money. You’re trying to invite it to the party of your life, but you have all these points of view that it is somehow inherently evil. look, I have a euro right here. I don’t know why I have 200 euros here, but I do. I travel to Europe a lot. That’s why. Is there inherently anything evil about this thing? No, it’s a piece of frigging paper. You know what I mean? So it’s like changing some of these deep held perspectives can create a space where

rather than having to work to receive and rather than feeling like we have to just be struggling all the time, we can actually allow ourselves to receive what we know we would like and what we’re capable of.

Christian Mauerer
Yeah, beautifully said.

Dr. Dain Heer
Thank you.

Christian Mauerer
Yep. It’s a big one, you know? The big, the big money, the big money. It’s so… yeah.

Dr. Dain Heer
Yeah. And it’s also, I’m glad you brought up that it is a big one because in the spiritual community and the self-help personal development, there’s this, it’s like the big thing you’re not supposed to speak about. You’re not supposed to, you’re supposed to, I don’t know exactly what we’re supposed to do, to be honest. I think that’s one of the other problems is,

Christian Mauerer
Mm.

Dr. Dain Heer
We haven’t been given the freedom to be vulnerable with whatever’s going on, but this is one of those that even talking about it or acting like you like it, you’re shunned by those in the spiritual community. And it’s an interesting thing because I grew up in, it was an interesting, I had very interesting childhood and family dynamics. had… ⁓

mother and father who were divorced and my mom happened to be gay and we lived with her friends and so my mom’s family was poor as we’re talking trailer park point of view perspective on life and then my dad my grandfather had created a business so my dad’s family had money they were sort of upper middle class and there was always this weird

where this side, the family that had money thought they were better and superior because they had money, and the family that didn’t have money thought they were better and superior because they didn’t have money and could still keep living. And I grew up in the middle of it going, this is insane, you know? And I tried, like most of us kids do, to take both of those points of view. But what happens is, with the points of view our parents have and our families have when we grew up and everybody around us,

we end up functioning from some major cognitive dissonance where there’s this that people are saying is true and living as though it’s true. And on the other side, there’s this that’s diametrically opposed that these people are saying is true. It creates this cognitive dissonance because you can’t simultaneously hold those realities in existence. And that’s where most people are functioning regarding money and business, because business is another extension of that. People see business as

It is what is destroying the planet and no, it’s people that are making those choices. Some businesses are saving it and not that it needs saving, but some businesses are contributing to a greater future. But it’s there’s no such thing as a business. There’s just a conglomeration of individuals creating this thing we call business, so we gotta realize it’s our choice to have something different to create something different. Going with the stereotypical thing to avoid.

Christian Mauerer
Hmm.

Dr. Dain Heer
so you don’t have to look at your stuff is not really a kindness to anyone.

Christian Mauerer
Yeah. Yeah, I can see, know, how where you come from is such a wide spectrum. So you had to just find where you are on that spectrum. And if anything is possible, what do I want to create from, you know what I mean? So very, very fascinating. I’d say, and I continue with the thought that all of our changes start with

a thought, like a vision, thought, right? And you call that oftentimes the home of infinite possibilities, right? So what is this home? How can people relate to it? And you sometimes also use the metaphor of the dragon. Can you speak to that?

Dr. Dain Heer
Yeah, so, you know, when you said, you know, figuring out where you are on the spectrum, I tried that forever and I was never successful. And finally, I decided to throw out everybody else’s spectrums and create my own. And that really is where the home of infinite possibilities is. It’s based on the awareness that we are infinite beings, which is unfathomable to our mind. And

For me, I like to let people know if you’re thinking, you’re stinking. In other words, if you’re mulling something over, thinking about it all the time, that’s like a hamster on a hamster wheel. And so what is possible if, what if this home, what if this earth, and I know I sound like a total dreamer, I sound totally delusional, and I may be, but I don’t care because I’m happy and wealthy and I see people getting happier.

and wealthier, so I’m fine being delusional. So if I’m bat shit crazy, no problem. ⁓ But what if this place could be our home and what if it truly had infinite possibilities? And I say that and most people go blank because it’s like, what? What are you talking about? Well, I’m doing it partially as a pattern interrupt, but remember what’s true makes you lighter. And no matter how much your mind, why…

might want to try to stop it or put it in a box that can understand, when you deliver something that’s true, it creates more possibility for that to show up in somebody’s world. And the thing about the dragons, started on a, I got a 3D printer because I am, I’m a geek, I’m a nerd of magnitude. I love exploring everything. And I got into ceramic coating of things at one point, you know, and then I was led to 3D printing and

I always wanted to print one of those flexy dragons, so I printed one. And I brought it out and my house manager, who’s just this amazing lady, she’s like, my God. She’s like, Dain, you need to make these available to people. I’m like, why? She’s like, touch it, feel it. I’ve never felt anything like this. I’m like, what are you talking about? She’s like, it’s magic. And I was like, and it was interesting because once she said it and she showed me what she was looking at, I was like, holy crap.

There’s something to this and once again, I considered I was completely delusional. So I made some for some people and I sent them to them and they got them and they were like, holy crap, it’s magic. And you know, I’m more than willing to have people tell me I’m weird. The original meaning of weird was a spirit fader destiny. But this whole idea is, and I don’t make any of that significant. Do I sell dragons? Yes, but okay, fine. If you want a dragon, get a dragon.

You know, if you get that it will contribute to you, then get one. And if you don’t, don’t. You should have choice. this, what I’m trying to bring to people’s awareness is, what if we have way more available than we’ve ever imagined? And what if this linear reality, this polarized reality, the reality we were all sold isn’t the only choice available? And what if you don’t have to go to a mountaintop for 25 years and meditate and eat only snails or, I don’t know.

kale or whatever to get there. What if all of those, whatever choice you make in that realm, the, you know, eating kale or meditating can be a contribution. But what if there’s something available right here, right now in our living, breathing reality that has far more possibilities to it than most people can see? Are you willing to be one of the weirdos that sees possibilities other people don’t? Are you willing to be like the little kid in The Emperor Has No Clothes and go, y’all are delusional.

He’s naked, you know? Like, are you willing to know? And my other question to people would be, what do you know is possible that other people don’t see that you’ve given up on? And what if you stop giving up just because other people can’t see it? You know, we’ve all had the experience of having something we were so excited about, something we were gonna create, and then we made the mistake of sharing it with somebody who didn’t get it or who wanted to shut it down, and it felt like it just disappears. Well.

what if we valued ourselves enough to allow ourselves to tap into our dreams of if I had no financial limitation, if I had no limitation of anything, what would I create? And you may not be able to create that in that form, but something that has that energy to it, it to your life. Like we are far more capable than we give ourselves credit for. And in the form of a podcast,

I can have the conversation, create the invitation. I shared a couple of tools, but when I get to work with people in a class, I would not just have this conversation, then I would go into unlocking everything that doesn’t allow that to start showing up for you now. And I mean now, I mean within the time of the conversation, you know something is different, where you’re like, holy crap, I can do this, you know? And it’s, we are just, I know I get a little intense, and I think…

sometimes that’s a really good friggin thing because we are capable of so much more and most of the tools that we’re being shown by the world around us are not effective enough or fast enough for the way we are wired.

Christian Mauerer
Yeah, yeah, I agree. You know, and I think, you know, most of society is just we’re too standardized, you know, everybody gets the same phone, the same computer, the same thing. Yeah, it’s just like it just makes sense and it makes it easy for the guys who make it right. But we’re so different and brilliant in our own unique way. And we rarely ever explore that more, you know, which, you know, I like they say sometimes it’s good to get weird, you know, they have to.

start supporting and nurturing that unique, authentic, weird side of yourself. ⁓ Which we especially lose when we get older. Responsibilities and kids. She’s like, time for that. Recently, a funny little excursion here. My iPhone ⁓ broke, had a liquid damage because it got into water. I want to fix that thing.

Dr. Dain Heer
Right?

Mm-hmm.

Christian Mauerer
And then I bought parts and stuff, you know, get into the whole thing, just like you with whatever, the 3D printing. And it’s just so fascinating. The world of like hardware and software, you know, because certain Apple parts are paired to, you know, Apple servers and blah, blah, blah. can’t just change the Face ID camera module that’s tied to the logic board. Like you have to get both together. It’s stuff like that. how the world, like how is the world created? Like how, what,

devices that we use every day. We never know how this thing works. I open it up and you get all scared. Nothing’s breaking. The cables are flexible. Popping everything open. It so much fun to explore that side of myself, that tinker archetype. All right, cool. I want to get…

Dr. Dain Heer
Yeah.

Christian Mauerer
I want to get some wisdom for our spiritual entrepreneurs from your perspective. So let’s say somebody’s out there and they’re thinking about the thought of starting their own side business or, you know, whether it’s spiritual or not, we don’t care. But what would you, what would you say to them? They’re maybe a little bit just scared to pursue that idea or put themselves out there. Like what’s something, just a quick little, I don’t know, read my book and then, you know, we can move on.

Dr. Dain Heer
Read my book. No. Actually, I’ll say to you what was said to me when I graduated college and I was thinking of going to chiropractic school or not, but I’ve been out of college for a year and I really wanted to go, but I’m like, oh, I’m probably too old. I sat down with a chiropractic friend and she looked at me and she went, Dain, you’re 23 years old.

She’s like, what’s gonna work better for you to actually start now, even though you’re terrified and go to school and get your chiropractic degree and license, or wait 10 years and then do it, because we know you’re going to? And I was like, ⁓ crap. So I will say to you, there is no perfect at the start. Every single one of us who’s ever created any business,

has had ups, downs, and all arounds, and some people will only tell you about their successes, don’t believe them, they’ve had a lot of failures that is so far in their back mirror that they, whatever, they either forgot or just don’t wanna tell you. Everybody just has to figure it out as they go along and recognize you got this. You’re far greater than you wanna know, but be willing to start small, be willing to not, some people say,

sell your house or ⁓ quit your job so you have to create. I’m not wired that way, maybe some people are, but start small and then see how it goes. I have a whole dragon business that started with printing one dragon. I wasn’t even gonna print a dragon. I wasn’t even gonna do this as a business. But also find out what you love. Find out what is really fun for you and then have some friends over, you know?

Share it with them. Some people you really like and start getting into the mode of, sorry, I was supposed to say one thing. That’s the ADHD, I apologize. Start getting into the mode of providing the service and getting the feedback for it, but also just start. Okay, if I have to say one thing, just start. Just start.

Christian Mauerer
to start. it’s so powerful. Also the Nike slogan, do it. Nothing’s going to beat it. know, even with the tea business that I started two, three years ago, it’s like, listen, I have a child, I have a dog, I’m married. If I don’t do this this year, it’s not going to happen. You know what I mean? So from that perspective, like, put it out there, bro. You know, just…

Dr. Dain Heer
Yeah.

Yeah

I’m like.

Christian Mauerer
make a package and see how it lands and see if the market, you know, wants it. And listen, if nobody buys in half a year, then you know, probably not worth to pursue that thing, you know? Yeah, but the starting is sometimes the hardest, but at the same time, it’s so easy. You just literally sit down, get some of your M5 or make that label, put it on a white bag with your words and your energy and put it out there, you know?

Dr. Dain Heer
Right, right.

Yep.

Christian Mauerer
So

Dr. Dain Heer
So true.

Christian Mauerer
yeah, so true. ⁓ OK, so let’s say, you like you’ve reached so many people through seminars, online presentations. And I think you also have one coming up on January 17th, 18th, Texas Ranch, you have an event coming up.

Dr. Dain Heer
Yeah, we’re doing something called embodiment done different. Yeah.

Christian Mauerer
Beautiful.

How would you like, if you could only impact like one thing about how people live their lives, how, what would you choose?

Dr. Dain Heer
For them to stop judging. Them and everything and everyone else.

Hmm

Christian Mauerer
Yeah, because then you would just start, you’re like, ⁓ I have no idea. Sometimes it’s good to also be in this like naive mindset of just like, can you just do this? You know, just not even gonna plan or, you know, ask Chachi BT five million question about the business, go to market planning, it’s just freaking get the label, put the tea inside the white bag, close it.

Dr. Dain Heer
Okay.

Yeah.

Close it and go. Yep, exactly. And we judge so much out of existence and we’ve been taught we need to wait for the perfect this or the, there is no perfect this or that that is going to make this happen. You just have to start. What can they do today to get this started?

Christian Mauerer
Yeah. So let’s look at your future, your legacy, like 20 years from now. What do you think? What do you hope Access Consciousness has contributed to the world? What do you see your legacy to be?

Dr. Dain Heer
What I would like is for it to be a household name where every business is using these tools because when you use the tools of consciousness, you have happier employees, you create greater, you have more profitability, you contribute more to the planet and the people. It’s like it’s a win-win, win-win, win-win-win with no downside. I’d like schools to have access to…

One of the things that we have is something we call access consciousness bars. It’s the thing that I went and literally was depressed and suicidal, had never heard of this stuff, had an hour and 15 minute session. And it’s this basically light touch pressure point technique that’s done on the head. An hour and 15 minutes later, well actually all the way through it was happening, but an hour and 15 minutes later I got up and I was happy and grateful to be alive.

It’s literally why I’m still here. But because I had an experience of it changing so dynamically, I knew it could happen, which is why I keep wanting people to know it’s possible no matter what hole you think you’re in or what mountaintop you want to get to. And I would like bars to be in every school, every business, every government, every institution, because it decreases.

We’ve done studies found it decreases anxiety, stress and depression, an average of 87 % with one session. If we had that, the peace we all desire in the world would be tangible, be tangible and it would be possible. And people who are not doing judgment, anger, rage, fear and hate and control don’t cause war. They look for how to contribute and…

Christian Mauerer
Hmm.

Dr. Dain Heer
⁓ create with others and create for others. And that’s the world I would like to see. If that could occur in 20 years, I would be a really happy cookie. So, how do we get there? Well, today I’m asking, hey, universe, hey, consciousness, please help. I will do my part. By the way, for any of you who are looking to ask for something or change something, the beginning of that is this. It’s making a demand, which is making a choice for that.

And the way that looks is, I’m asking for this. Dear universe, dear consciousness, please help. I’m willing to let go of anything or anyone. I’m willing to have anything or anyone. I’m willing to change anything and be, create and generate anything I have to in order to have this show up and show me the way.

Christian Mauerer
Hmm.

Very powerful.

Yeah, thank you for that.

Yeah, the only thing that came up for me when you were talking about schools is what I see work these days with kids is video games. From school they get this login that is from school, so it’s kind of pre-approved in a way, right? It’s basically like a little game where you fight enemies, it’s like a 2D kind of map, and then you encounter new enemies. It’s kind like…

Dr. Dain Heer
Hmm.

Christian Mauerer
A little bit like Mario, we run into different enemies. And then after, I would say every three or five rounds, they get a challenge, which is then usually about math or whatever the subject is, right? So they’re engaged. They like the game, right? But then it gets, everything gets stopped until they solve that challenge, right? Which is a smart way to put it in there, I feel. ⁓ Yeah, anyways, that just came up for me. Yeah.

Dr. Dain Heer
Mm-hmm.

You

I had no idea they were doing that. Interesting.

Christian Mauerer
Yeah, and it’s a pre-approved game. It’s a game that comes from the school, the school that gives you the login, and they can play it at home for half an hour or an hour. I think there’s a time limit on it. Or you as a parent can even change the time limit, and you can decide how many ⁓ math problems within the half an hour or whatever it is. So that is not bad.

Dr. Dain Heer
Wow.

Christian Mauerer
I think it’s a smart idea to package this as a game and give them tools to use. Okay, now write down three things you’re grateful for.

Dr. Dain Heer
Right. Huh.

Christian Mauerer
me

Dr. Dain Heer
How the world has changed. Amazing. Jeez.

Christian Mauerer
how the world has changed.

yeah. Well, and then soon, you know, like I’m thinking like my son, he’s, he’s seven now, so he’s in second grade. Maybe I’ll take him out after fourth, fifth grade and, you know, it’d be amazing to get like an AI tutor for him. How crazy would that be? Like a person or like a robot that you can tell, I want my child to learn how to master money, do this, do that. And all you need to do.

Dr. Dain Heer
Hmm.

I’m

Christian Mauerer
Please go online, watch YouTube, hear the approved channels, just download the transcript, feed yourself the knowledge, and teach my child, At end of the day, raising children is nothing else than riding on a hard drive, conditioning them to do A, B, Z, D, blah, blah, right? There’s certain rewards tied to it.

Dr. Dain Heer
Boy, I hope there’s more available than that, my friend. See, I’m a big fan of, so part of the idea of not functioning from judgment is not rejecting anything, asking will this be a contribution and what result will it create? So, you know, there are some people like, I hate, I, I, it’s gonna destroy us. And then there’s some people like, it’s the best thing in the world. I’m like, yeah, for what it’s great for, it’s great. For what it’s not, it’s not, you know?

And I think if we can have that in our awareness and ask the question each time, this is where questions starts getting us off of autopilot also. If we can ask a question each time, okay, will this be a contribution? What contribution will it be? And how can I do this even greater possibly? You can let the AI tutor the AI robot, where it’s gonna be a contribution.

And like you said, use it in the ways that are gonna free you up to do what will be either more fun or more creative or more productive for you, you know?

Christian Mauerer
Yeah. Imagine having somebody you can talk to that has an infinite mind like that, you know? Recreate, you know, access to all knowledge. mean, just having ⁓ like a, I don’t know, like a statue or like a, like a, I don’t know, a thing that you can talk to that has all the knowledge already when you just need it. Amazing. I’ll take it.

Dr. Dain Heer
Mm.

That is amazing on the one hand. And what I keep looking at is who’s going to show people how to be a

I don’t want to say a good person because that connotes a judgment, but who’s going to show them how to be the person that they can be?

Christian Mauerer
I mean, the parents still, right? mean, that’s the education still happens at home and you know, you see.

Dr. Dain Heer
Well, that

that see, I’m not talking about you like I can see you being with your kid and having this amazing resource and you know, and being a parent, ⁓ man. Wow, that’s that is so many full time jobs put together along with inbuilt judgment that of course you can never do it perfectly enough and all that. So my hat goes off to you parents in the world. You know truly.

Truly, and raising them and how fast the world is changing now is, you guys are amazing. And I hope you know that. So I want to acknowledge that also. And in that, we often will take the path of least resistance. If we’ve got something there that will tutor our child, we won’t hang out and show them what an amazing kid they are.

show them how to be a person, but, and then again, maybe we will, you know, it depends, once again, it’s individual, it’s unique. Each of us chooses how we’re gonna be in each of those situations.

Christian Mauerer
Yeah.

Yeah. Well, thank you so much for being on the show. And I would love for you to maybe leave us with something that, yeah, connect the last words to the audience. Like what’s something that you really want to give people in the listeners with on their path.

Dr. Dain Heer
First, please realize that no matter what’s going on in your life, you are not wrong. You are a gift and a contribution. Also, the only thing required to have everything you desire is never quit, never give up, and never give in. And what if you truly being you, as miraculously weird and wonderful as you are, are the gift, the change, and the possibility this world requires?

Christian Mauerer
Aho to that. Thank you so much for being on the show, Dain.

Dr. Dain Heer
Christian, it’s been a pleasure. Thank you.

Christian Mauerer
Likewise.

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